I really miss the iPod and wanted to talk about it here. I remember when I was about 10 or 11, my dad gave me a Sony MP3 player he brought back from a trip. Before that, we had things like the Discman. But everything changed when I got my first iPod, the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. It was the first Apple product I ever owned, and it blew my mind. It’s also why I ended up getting a Mac and iPhone later on.
After the 4th Gen, I never bought another iPod, but I still think we could use something like it today. Offline music and videos still matter, and I think an iPod with a touchscreen and some AI features could be great. The iPods had great design, and while things like the Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin sound cool, they’re not quite right.
To answer, it comes down to convenience. People would rather have one device that does everything, like a smartphone. Services like Spotify are just easier than managing an offline library and syncing music. iPods, like MP3 players before them, are now more of a niche for enthusiasts.
> Imagine something like those iPods we all loved, with the power of ChatGPT or any other cool AI product we currently have!
I don’t think AI adds much to music listening. It would just make the device more expensive, and people probably wouldn’t buy it.
Sam said:
To answer, it comes down to convenience. People would rather have one device that does everything, like a smartphone. Services like Spotify are just easier than managing an offline library and syncing music. iPods, like MP3 players before them, are now more of a niche for enthusiasts.
> Imagine something like those iPods we all loved, with the power of ChatGPT or any other cool AI product we currently have!
I don’t think AI adds much to music listening. It would just make the device more expensive, and people probably wouldn’t buy it.
I don’t agree about the convenience of streaming. I’ve been using my iPods a lot more lately, and it’s easier than ever to get music online, already tagged and in good quality. I use a converter to keep my files small and high-quality. Streaming services, on the other hand, make you pay, and you still have to deal with ads or other restrictions. Plus, offline music is handy if you’re without internet. And, let’s be honest, Spotify’s quality isn’t great compared to what I can get on my iPod.
Sam said:
To answer, it comes down to convenience. People would rather have one device that does everything, like a smartphone. Services like Spotify are just easier than managing an offline library and syncing music. iPods, like MP3 players before them, are now more of a niche for enthusiasts.
> Imagine something like those iPods we all loved, with the power of ChatGPT or any other cool AI product we currently have!
I don’t think AI adds much to music listening. It would just make the device more expensive, and people probably wouldn’t buy it.
I don’t agree about the convenience of streaming. I’ve been using my iPods a lot more lately, and it’s easier than ever to get music online, already tagged and in good quality. I use a converter to keep my files small and high-quality. Streaming services, on the other hand, make you pay, and you still have to deal with ads or other restrictions. Plus, offline music is handy if you’re without internet. And, let’s be honest, Spotify’s quality isn’t great compared to what I can get on my iPod.
I get your point, but you should break up your thoughts more so it’s easier to read. 320kbps MP3 is already great quality, and anything more is overkill for most situations.
Every smartphone is basically an iPod now. Back when the iPhone first launched, Apple probably knew the iPod’s days were numbered as people would rather carry one device instead of two. The iPod Touch stuck around for a bit, but as smartphones got cheaper and better, the iPod just became unnecessary.
Now that streaming is the main way people listen to music, a device that doesn’t have cellular data or WiFi wouldn’t cut it. If you add mobile data to an iPod, it’s pretty much just an iPhone at that point. AI features wouldn’t really make it more appealing either.
Kim said:
Every smartphone is basically an iPod now. Back when the iPhone first launched, Apple probably knew the iPod’s days were numbered as people would rather carry one device instead of two. The iPod Touch stuck around for a bit, but as smartphones got cheaper and better, the iPod just became unnecessary.
Now that streaming is the main way people listen to music, a device that doesn’t have cellular data or WiFi wouldn’t cut it. If you add mobile data to an iPod, it’s pretty much just an iPhone at that point. AI features wouldn’t really make it more appealing either.
I remember when you had to carry a phone, an iPod, a camera, and even a GPS. It was normal to carry all these things. But with smartphones, all those separate devices got replaced. iPods just couldn’t compete with the convenience of a phone that did it all. But that’s part of what makes them special now, like collecting old cameras that don’t beat a smartphone but still have their charm.
Kim said:
Every smartphone is basically an iPod now. Back when the iPhone first launched, Apple probably knew the iPod’s days were numbered as people would rather carry one device instead of two. The iPod Touch stuck around for a bit, but as smartphones got cheaper and better, the iPod just became unnecessary.
Now that streaming is the main way people listen to music, a device that doesn’t have cellular data or WiFi wouldn’t cut it. If you add mobile data to an iPod, it’s pretty much just an iPhone at that point. AI features wouldn’t really make it more appealing either.
I still love my iPods. Why pay to stream music when I already own it? My Samsung phone is too bulky to carry everywhere anyway.
Kim said:
Every smartphone is basically an iPod now. Back when the iPhone first launched, Apple probably knew the iPod’s days were numbered as people would rather carry one device instead of two. The iPod Touch stuck around for a bit, but as smartphones got cheaper and better, the iPod just became unnecessary.
Now that streaming is the main way people listen to music, a device that doesn’t have cellular data or WiFi wouldn’t cut it. If you add mobile data to an iPod, it’s pretty much just an iPhone at that point. AI features wouldn’t really make it more appealing either.
I still love my iPods. Why pay to stream music when I already own it? My Samsung phone is too bulky to carry everywhere anyway.
I feel the same way, but I think most people just prefer the ease of streaming and don’t care much about owning music.
Sam said: Kim said:
Every smartphone is basically an iPod now. Back when the iPhone first launched, Apple probably knew the iPod’s days were numbered as people would rather carry one device instead of two. The iPod Touch stuck around for a bit, but as smartphones got cheaper and better, the iPod just became unnecessary.
Now that streaming is the main way people listen to music, a device that doesn’t have cellular data or WiFi wouldn’t cut it. If you add mobile data to an iPod, it’s pretty much just an iPhone at that point. AI features wouldn’t really make it more appealing either.
I still love my iPods. Why pay to stream music when I already own it? My Samsung phone is too bulky to carry everywhere anyway.
I feel the same way, but I think most people just prefer the ease of streaming and don’t care much about owning music.
Yeah, but then you’re scrolling through endless songs, just like when you’re looking for something to watch on Netflix. I’ll stick with modding my iPods and keeping them running.
Sam said: Kim said:
Every smartphone is basically an iPod now. Back when the iPhone first launched, Apple probably knew the iPod’s days were numbered as people would rather carry one device instead of two. The iPod Touch stuck around for a bit, but as smartphones got cheaper and better, the iPod just became unnecessary.
Now that streaming is the main way people listen to music, a device that doesn’t have cellular data or WiFi wouldn’t cut it. If you add mobile data to an iPod, it’s pretty much just an iPhone at that point. AI features wouldn’t really make it more appealing either.
I still love my iPods. Why pay to stream music when I already own it? My Samsung phone is too bulky to carry everywhere anyway.
I feel the same way, but I think most people just prefer the ease of streaming and don’t care much about owning music.
We don’t really own the music anyway, just a license to play it. You can’t sell it or make copies.
Kim said:
Every smartphone is basically an iPod now. Back when the iPhone first launched, Apple probably knew the iPod’s days were numbered as people would rather carry one device instead of two. The iPod Touch stuck around for a bit, but as smartphones got cheaper and better, the iPod just became unnecessary.
Now that streaming is the main way people listen to music, a device that doesn’t have cellular data or WiFi wouldn’t cut it. If you add mobile data to an iPod, it’s pretty much just an iPhone at that point. AI features wouldn’t really make it more appealing either.
I still love my iPods. Why pay to stream music when I already own it? My Samsung phone is too bulky to carry everywhere anyway.
I agree. My big phone stays at home when I’m out on long walks. I’ve got hundreds of gigs of music from years of DJing, so I never needed a streaming service.
One thing no one talks about is how streaming has devalued music. When iPods were big, people were still buying CDs or albums. Now, most people don’t even buy music anymore, and they definitely aren’t going to buy a separate device for it.
Bao said:
One thing no one talks about is how streaming has devalued music. When iPods were big, people were still buying CDs or albums. Now, most people don’t even buy music anymore, and they definitely aren’t going to buy a separate device for it.
That’s interesting. I actually buy more albums now than I used to, but I don’t stream at all. I like owning my music, but it’s so frustrating dealing with Apple’s software that always wants you to sign in just to play it on different devices.
It’s simple, Apple just didn’t see enough of a market for iPods anymore. I agree with you though, I’d love to see a modern version of the iPod Classic.
Harley said:
I really miss the iPod and wanted to talk about it here. I remember when I was about 10 or 11, my dad gave me a Sony MP3 player he brought back from a trip. Before that, we had things like the Discman. But everything changed when I got my first iPod, the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. It was the first Apple product I ever owned, and it blew my mind. It’s also why I ended up getting a Mac and iPhone later on.
After the 4th Gen, I never bought another iPod, but I still think we could use something like it today. Offline music and videos still matter, and I think an iPod with a touchscreen and some AI features could be great. The iPods had great design, and while things like the Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin sound cool, they’re not quite right.
What do you all think?
Most people use their phones now instead of iPods. Also, Apple is making more money from services like streaming, so they don’t really have any reason to bring the iPod back.
Harley said:
I really miss the iPod and wanted to talk about it here. I remember when I was about 10 or 11, my dad gave me a Sony MP3 player he brought back from a trip. Before that, we had things like the Discman. But everything changed when I got my first iPod, the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. It was the first Apple product I ever owned, and it blew my mind. It’s also why I ended up getting a Mac and iPhone later on.
After the 4th Gen, I never bought another iPod, but I still think we could use something like it today. Offline music and videos still matter, and I think an iPod with a touchscreen and some AI features could be great. The iPods had great design, and while things like the Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin sound cool, they’re not quite right.
What do you all think?
Most people use their phones now instead of iPods. Also, Apple is making more money from services like streaming, so they don’t really have any reason to bring the iPod back.
> Apple makes a lot of money from services and apps now
Yep, Apple takes a 30% cut from all App Store transactions, including subscriptions. That’s why they don’t mind having services like Spotify. But they still want you to use Apple Music instead.
Zev said: Harley said:
I really miss the iPod and wanted to talk about it here. I remember when I was about 10 or 11, my dad gave me a Sony MP3 player he brought back from a trip. Before that, we had things like the Discman. But everything changed when I got my first iPod, the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. It was the first Apple product I ever owned, and it blew my mind. It’s also why I ended up getting a Mac and iPhone later on.
After the 4th Gen, I never bought another iPod, but I still think we could use something like it today. Offline music and videos still matter, and I think an iPod with a touchscreen and some AI features could be great. The iPods had great design, and while things like the Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin sound cool, they’re not quite right.
What do you all think?
Most people use their phones now instead of iPods. Also, Apple is making more money from services like streaming, so they don’t really have any reason to bring the iPod back.
> Apple makes a lot of money from services and apps now
Yep, Apple takes a 30% cut from all App Store transactions, including subscriptions. That’s why they don’t mind having services like Spotify. But they still want you to use Apple Music instead.
Yeah, exactly! You said it even better than I did.
Harley said:
I really miss the iPod and wanted to talk about it here. I remember when I was about 10 or 11, my dad gave me a Sony MP3 player he brought back from a trip. Before that, we had things like the Discman. But everything changed when I got my first iPod, the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. It was the first Apple product I ever owned, and it blew my mind. It’s also why I ended up getting a Mac and iPhone later on.
After the 4th Gen, I never bought another iPod, but I still think we could use something like it today. Offline music and videos still matter, and I think an iPod with a touchscreen and some AI features could be great. The iPods had great design, and while things like the Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin sound cool, they’re not quite right.
What do you all think?
When streaming first started, I was really excited and ditched my iPod. But over time, streaming just got worse with all the restrictions and ‘not available in your region’ messages. Now, I’m back to using my iPod mini daily.
Harley said:
I really miss the iPod and wanted to talk about it here. I remember when I was about 10 or 11, my dad gave me a Sony MP3 player he brought back from a trip. Before that, we had things like the Discman. But everything changed when I got my first iPod, the iPod Touch 3rd Gen. It was the first Apple product I ever owned, and it blew my mind. It’s also why I ended up getting a Mac and iPhone later on.
After the 4th Gen, I never bought another iPod, but I still think we could use something like it today. Offline music and videos still matter, and I think an iPod with a touchscreen and some AI features could be great. The iPods had great design, and while things like the Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin sound cool, they’re not quite right.
What do you all think?
Smartphones and streaming services kinda made iPods obsolete.