Brilliant article on iPad OS issues

@Harnest
IMHO this article isn’t actually as interesting as the article the author links to here https://www.macstories.net/stories/macpad-how-i-created-the-hybrid-mac-ipad-laptop-and-tablet-that-apple-wont-make/

This is a very intriguing skunkworks project that proves the potential value in the virtualization approach you mention. He basically ripped the screen off a MacBook and replaced it with an iPad Pro and used Sidecar and Universal control to control OSX-in-a-remote-display and iPadOS from the MacBook keyboard/trackpad. I think it’s pretty easy to see how this basic concept could be done via virtualization on a single device. Not that there aren’t some real challenges around hardware access/allocation, resource partitioning etc, but it’s the type of thing that I’d almost be surprised if there weren’t such devices running in the R&D department.

Not that I think Apple is on the brink of doing this, but it sure would go a long way towards justifying a $1500+ price tag on a tablet

@Avery
Excellent reasoning, appreciate a high quality discussion from start to finish the above is precise to say the least.

Yes, I remember seeing that article too. There’s a flavour of the same in remote desktop to MacOS too not unlike Windows 11 on Touchscreen devices eg Surface: Clearly the UI is not perfect for Touch but it’s still usable.

I’d guess Apple will deploy AI at WWDC and iPadOS update will be nice but same as always, but even more pronounced not justifying the top price in the top pro iPad models, for most people, other than say artists.

>Not that there aren’t some real challenges around hardware access/allocation, resource partitioning etc

My guess is Apple will only provide significant iPad OS changes with a new OS perhaps combining iPadOS features and MacOS features: Probably what they have in R&D along with Virtualization as one of those features from the MacOS side.

@Cade
Goodness yes

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They should replace files app with finder. Make it as close to macOS finder possible.

Missing apps:

Preview. Another unsung hero of Apple’s desktop apps is Preview. Whether you have an image or PDF document that you want to check out in more detail, or perhaps even edit, you can rest assured that Preview for macOS has your back. The iPad feels like the ideal platform for Preview: the device is great for viewing photos or reading PDF documents, and the Apple Pencil would take Preview’s annotation capabilities to the next level. Apple probably wants you to believe that Quick Look’s interactive system-wide previews on iOS and iPadOS are a substitute for the Preview app, but that’s not the case. There’s something about Preview’s clarity and ease of use that can’t be replaced by a simple Quick Look preview, and that’s not to mention the features that iPadOS’ Quick Look lacks compared to Preview for macOS.

ABSOLUTELY! A central powerful viewer that handles so many images, pdf and other formats is a no brainer and insane that all the ‘gimme da terminal to do da hacking’ comments we see here missed entirely.

How does IPad not have a central powerful multimedia viewing app?

Fontbook is another no brainer. It’s simple, it’s full featured and familiar, and far better experience than a weird system panel for adding and removing fonts.

@Drake
Files app and preview including all the stuff related to those apps is a huge annoyance on iPad OS. Not having the ability to set default apps for file formats is terrible. Such a basic thing, yet Apple hasn’t fixed it.

@Pace
>“I saved the most absurd limitation of Files for last. As of iPadOS 17, it’s still impossible to set default apps for opening specific file types. I shouldn’t even have to explain why this is a ridiculous shortcoming, but here we are. On the iPad, every document you click in Files defaults to showing you a Quick Look preview, and there is no way to tell the system that you want to view the document with another app instead.”

LOL. This is so true. It’s ridiculous. Great article thanks for linking.

The best article I’ve come across or even video on the iPad, to date.

Listing the deficiencies in the OS compared to MacOS for Pro iPads with M1-4 chips is very constructive.

Face the facts, Apple is a trillions of dollars company and they’re not even providing desktop features you’d find in computers back in the 90s or when they do, it’s half-baked, half-assed, beta-buggy-quality, left to die on the shelf half-built before a new version is launched eg Multi-Tasking as per the article.

The big area that needs improving is:

  • Multi-tasking with Spaces-paradigm that sets both pre-set groups of apps and also memory allocation ie turned on to sustain persistence if the user needs that along with eg multiple video and audio streams.

Failing that the alternative is to ignore iPadOS and run MacOS via remote desktop or virtualization falling short of a 100% new OS merging iPadOS/MacOS.

It’s good finally there’s a definitive list of the features inefficiencies and deficiencies (ie not present) in iPadOS given the awesome hardware and frankly imho the best form factor device currently in the market.

this article is perfection. dont need macOS. Just fix these glaring issues.

Darby said:
this article is perfection. dont need macOS. Just fix these glaring issues.

I feel like a quality post in this sub is some belated April fools joke lol.

This is really on point. Still reading it.

“Apple rolled out customizable toolbars for iPadOS two years ago, but they never added support for them in Safari for iPad”

BINGO. ridiculous shortcoming.

“The iPad is supposed to be a lighter platform than the Mac!”
No, it’s supposed to be a ‘Touch first focused’ platform. That’s very different.

Features which don’t work well in that arena need to be rethought, not abandoned.
And yes, the priority was for many years on the the horsepower limits, but we’re not in that place now.

Now it can be more.

Darby said:
this article is perfection. dont need macOS. Just fix these glaring issues.

I didn’t realize how much I wanted Mission Control on iPad until this article.

While everyone likes to harp about the senseless limitations in iPadOS, I think this is just part of a much broader problem, which is that Apple’s software has been terrible and getting worse since they released iOS 7. That began a trend towards an oversimplification of their user interfaces, which at first seemed mainly cosmetic, but the problem goes much deeper into abandoned features and functionality. And nowhere is this more obvious than in their Mac apps, since there we can compare current Mac apps to their predecessors.

Just look at the current Music app and compare it to what we could previously do in iTunes. You used to be able to show a list of all music and then sort or filter or search by any parameter you desired: artist, song, genre, album, date of release, date added to library, etc. With the Music app, on the other hand, it takes a monumental effort to find anything or even get a sense of how the navigation works. For instance, just try to find a list of recent releases from artists you follow. Nope, can’t do it. All you get is a notification when a new song is realized. That’s it, and then it’s gone.

Don’t get me wrong, I agree that iTunes was long overdue for a rewrite and I get that with most people streaming music today, it made sense to design a music app around that, rather than around managing locally stored music collections. But put all that aside and the Music app is still trash. Much like Apple TV, the Music app feels like advertising. It feels like commercial radio. It keeps trying to tell you what you should be listening to instead of giving you the features to find and organize the music you want to listen to in the way you want.

Now look at the stagnant Photos app and the long list of features that were lost when Apple abandoned Aperture. Sure, you can always use Adobe Lightroom, but Adobe products require a separate, overpriced subscription AND they are not compatible with iCloud! I never expected Apple to turn Photos into a full blown photo manager and editor like Aperture was, but fuck it’s been so many years and they’ve barely added any features at all! You would think that given how important photography is to selling iPhones, Apple would want to go out of their way to make the best software for viewing, editing, and managing your photos. But nope, that’s not the case.

I think there are three root causes to these problems:

  1. Loss of Talent The people who designed those great Apple apps years ago have mostly retired and the current designers at Apple have lost all that institutional knowledge (not to mention the loss of Steve Jobs)

  2. Penny Pinching Apple has seemingly prioritized making their software simpler and cheaper to maintain, while sacrificing quality, consistency, features, and user experience

  3. Pursuit of Infinite Growth As Apple increasingly relies on “services” to grow their business, much of their software starts to look and feel more like a billboard for internal advertising than tools to empower the end user (see Music, TV, News, etc.)

What frustrates me most is that none of the tech writers are talking about this in any sort of focused way and I don’t think Apple executives—who are quite out of touch— even realize there’s a problem.

A few weeks ago I decided to try replacing my laptop with my iPad (9th gen) for a biking trip. I didn’t think I was asking much of it. Connect to the hotel wifi, run my VPN, check emails, consume media, copy files from my GoPro to OneDrive and a USB thumb drive.

The Files app was pretty bad. I had to buy a third party app to replace it. Other than that, no real complaints.

But we’re getting AI, I guess.

@Tarian
What third party file app did you get if I may ask?

North said:
@Tarian
What third party file app did you get if I may ask?

FileBrowser Professional by Stratospherix. Someone in another thread recommended it because it somehow mitigates or avoids the iPadOS / Files app corruption issue with exFAT files. It’s pretty great and I highly recommend.

@Tarian
Thank you, will check it out!

That is a very brilliant article indeed!! Agree with all that’s mentioned in it.

I often wonder if only the most devoted iPad users are concerned about these issues. Does the average iPad user care about files app? Or other iPad OS issues? All the tech articles, YouTube videos and folks on twitter belong to the top 10% of users or are tech enthusiasts. Who’s the average iPad Pro user and do they care about any of these issues?

@Pace
As much as us enthusiasts may not want to hear it, I think you make a valid point regarding the average iPad user. However, we and this article are primarily talking about the massively underutilized power of very expensive iPad Pro models—which are supposedly designed for enthusiasts and professionals. And there’s no reason why most of these desired improvements shouldn’t trickle down to all IpadOS devices.

@Pace
As the article says for “Pro” line where you spend a lot of money equivalent or more than a macbook, it’s legitimate to want a line of iPads that deliver on the hardware and price and provide the options/choices for Apple customers already in the ecosystem. For everyone else the iPad 9th Gen is as good as overkill so they’re not mutually incompatible but in fact complementary.